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#1 2009-08-10 08:16:05

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[Custom Map] Block Party

Preview video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqLRjwgIhc8

A little Time Trail map in the alpha-version. Its my first map and I think its good for the first!
I dont have to say anything more. Well, I hope you enjoy the map!

Download: http://www.speedshare.org/download.php?id=A805498C13

Oh, please tell me your thoughts about it! smile
Thanks!


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#2 2009-08-10 09:58:14

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

i suggest to use the ...documents/ea games/tdgame/published/cookedpc/maps/... instead of backuping original files.


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#3 2009-08-10 10:02:20

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I agree with taplonaplo, though I hadn't looked at the instructions yet.  smile  If you put the map in that location it will override the original map.

As for the map itself, it looks very colorful and cool in the video!  It reminds me a lot of one or two of the DLC maps.  Where did you get the green-blue background for everything?  I'm hoping it isn't a DLC background, because then I may not be able to use it since the DLC doesn't work with the Steam version...

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#4 2009-08-10 10:11:02

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

it's the night background from Lighting/L_Skydomes the sp06 sky tongue


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#5 2009-08-10 12:19:14

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Yeah its up to you, how you save your files! tongue
Thank you! smile


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#6 2009-08-11 09:49:51

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I'm working now on a big building, were you climb out and inside.
Its in the same Time Trail, and I added a few alternativ routes.

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#7 2009-08-11 18:36:57

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

awsome!


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#8 2009-08-11 19:08:07

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I just wanted to say again that you're doing great work on a pure time trial map (or maps), RedShadow.  If I were to make any suggestions, they would be:

1.  Try to make it so there are at least a couple of different routes in some places, so that you might have to pull off a slightly tricky move to take a shortcut, or do something that's not as obvious.  You may already be doing this, I haven't played your map yet, only watched the video.  tongue

2.  It looks pretty good as it is, but you might consider looking for a couple of different textures.  You can use different colors on the landing canvas cover if you want, and I'm sure some of us can help you search for decent textures for walls and floor surfaces.  To be honest, though, I used that green-and-white concrete block texture myself a lot...it IS really easy to use.  big_smile

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#9 2009-08-12 06:10:17

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Blizzard wrote:

1.  Try to make it so there are at least a couple of different routes in some places, so that you might have to pull off a slightly tricky move to take a shortcut, or do something that's not as obvious.  You may already be doing this, I haven't played your map yet, only watched the video.  tongue

2.  It looks pretty good as it is, but you might consider looking for a couple of different textures.  You can use different colors on the landing canvas cover if you want, and I'm sure some of us can help you search for decent textures for walls and floor surfaces.  To be honest, though, I used that green-and-white concrete block texture myself a lot...it IS really easy to use.  big_smile

To 1: Im working on shortcuts, at least I added 4 new shortcuts, they aren't very hard to do..its not as easy as I thought to make good alternativ routes.. Well, I try to make hard shortcuts, that you not see in the first runtrough.
Funny, that Im already finished with the next big building.  But I dont know if it would be good, to make another alpha (or beta) version out for download yet, so it seems to, that I want to make as fast as I can a bad level or something... sad

To 2: I love this textures were you can see the invidual bricks.
I can change the colour of these textures, so I can coulour the objects different. But at first I wantedt to colour all the same (springboards red, walls orange etc.)
And I must learn how I can make shadows, so the map looks better!
I didnt thought about the covermats. A good idea!

But thanks for your feedback. It helps a lot! smile


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#10 2009-08-12 06:22:55

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I usually build all routes at the same time, not adding in shortcuts and alternative routes later. Helps balancing them out.
About shadows:
For good looking shadows you will need at least a directional lght and a skylight
The skylight should have a low brightness ( probably lower than 1) depending on how bright you want the shadowed areas to be. Also this light's color can affect the color of the shadow, as setting the shadow color of the directional lgiht doesn't seem to have too much effect. You also need a directional lgiht and rotate it so it points from the origin of light (think of it as the sun) and it'll cast shadows in the same direction too.

PS: Blizzard is there still no known way to bake the map? even the normal unreal baker would be fine, mapsizes and loading times would really benefit from it (and i'm also curious how it affects the look tongue)...


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#11 2009-08-12 09:14:34

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

When I want to make alternate routes I have no idea what i could do, but at least I have an idea..well not very good ideas! big_smile
Thanks for explaining! smile


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#12 2009-08-12 10:26:05

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taplonaplo wrote:

PS: Blizzard is there still no known way to bake the map? even the normal unreal baker would be fine, mapsizes and loading times would really benefit from it (and i'm also curious how it affects the look tongue)...

I assume you mean "cook" the map so everything goes into one file or whatever?  I'm pretty sure the answer is no, since it tries to spawn another instance of MirrorsEdge.exe (which doesn't work on Steam, and I'm not sure what it does on the retail version).  You could try some crazy command-line commands, but I wouldn't bet on it being possible.

At any rate, we only have to distribute one file right now anyway unless we have custom packages.  And small custom maps load pretty fast in the game for me.

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#13 2009-08-12 14:21:24

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#14 2009-08-13 00:47:01

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

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#15 2009-08-13 05:19:56

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Thank you!
Ill add shadows and improve all a bit for a better flow, then I think, ill release it!

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#16 2009-08-26 10:22:40

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I rebuilt the whole map again, because the map was really, really "wild" and messy.
I "fixed" all the swingpoles and changed the way up to the building a bit. Now I must work on the looking and other stuff.

I could make another preview video, but I dont know if it would have any good?!
But maybe I will make a few screenshots, if you want to...

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#17 2009-08-27 00:20:32

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

The only problem is that it's ugly. Sorry, don't take it for you smile The path and the challenge are great, but really, it's horrible to look. The brown blocks are breaking everything...

Try to make something more artistic, good looking. Sometimes in the game you stop and look around because it's beautiful. I want to do that in a custom map too.

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#18 2009-08-27 04:46:09

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Huh? I havnt got brown blocks?! Or have I?!
Well, unfortunately your right. It looks really terrible! big_smile
But I havnt got any idea to make it look more interesting or beautiful...I'm not very good at making a map looking good!


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#19 2009-08-27 09:23:43

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I don't think he was trying to be mean...if you watch the youtube video, several of the vertical walls look brown.  The red colors look okay, but the brown walls aren't a very nice color.  Making them white, black, or blue could be better.  Or, you might even change the background color from the light green to something else.  If anyone else is good with color, please give suggestions!  big_smile

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#20 2009-08-27 12:08:37

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Oh! Okay, can you easily change the color of these textures?
Because I don't know how!


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#21 2009-08-27 13:04:13

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

If I have time in a day or so, I will try to look at it.  There should be a relatively way to change the color of a material, and you might enjoy learning how.  smile  If you can't find a material that's already in the package manger that has a color you like, you can look on my website in the links section...there should be a link to the Unreal Engine 3 site for doing Material Instance stuff.  That should allow you to make and modify materials with whatever colors you want, though it does take a tiny bit more work.  smile

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#22 2009-08-27 13:15:23

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Yeah, thanks you very much, Blizzard!
There is another color of this texture in another package. It's yellow.
But it would be fine, if I could learn how to change the color! smile


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#23 2009-10-26 16:29:08

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

I released the map, because I didnt worked anymore with it and maybe someon wants to play it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeFyRgC6IAk

Downloadlink in the description. Please comment and rate! smile


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#24 2009-10-26 18:12:22

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Interesting. I like the map.

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#25 2009-10-27 04:56:41

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Re: [Custom Map] Block Party

Yeah, the look is ugly, but thank you!


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